(narrator) henry moore was the world's foremost sculptor for 40 years. his creative legacy in many ways exemplifies the cultural ambitions of his time. he was every bit as surprising and complex as his art, a miner's son who refused a knighthood, a sculptor who caught the public's interest with his drawings, d ryt with a common touch. (henry moore) recently, there was a book published on my work by some jungian psychologist, a very good writer named nauman. i think the title was the archetypal world of henry moore and he sent me a copy, which he asked me to read. but after the first chapter i thought i better stop because it explained too much. and i thought it might stop me from ticking over if i went on and knew it all. (narrator) moore was english to the bone, he carved his reputation in english elm and boxwood, cumberland alabaster, and portland stone. when his art made him wealthy he turned to bronze and marble, but he never turned away from england. for all its rain and taxes it w h and he cleared a new path for english art. (anthony caro) you look at the history of english a

way. and now, this woman, doris dee dee moore, is on trial for his murder. moore sobbed in court today, after jurors listened to audio recordings of her allegedly agreeing to a scheme in which another man would take the blame for shakespeare's death. it was the latest bombshell in a scandalous trial. >> there was a person he knew who was willing to take the rap for his disappearance, for what i think reports say is about $50,000. >> reporter: shakespeare went from washing dishes and working garbage trucks in lakeland, florida, a suburb of tampa, to what he thought was the good life. but that quick pick ticket quickly turned his life upside down. >> i really would like my old life back, where i could walk the streets, like a normal person. >> reporter: he spent most of the money paying off mortgages for family, friends and some complete strangers. many new friends came into shakespeare's life, including moore, who offered to help manage his money. in this home video, you can hear her asking him about his situation. >> you get tired of people asking you for money all the time? >> they do

: sam moore surveyed the damage in his neighborhood in pennington, texas. >> this used to be a really big- - as you can see by the size of the slab, used to be a huge feed store. it wasn't a weak building at all. it was a well-built building, and it just-- you see what it did to it. it's amazing. >> reporter: emergency personnel here got some much-needed help from the indiana national guard today. troops were deployed here to help check on stranded motorists and check on shut-ins. jim? >> axelrod: troy kehoe in bloomington, indiana, for us, thank you. david bernard is the chief meteorologist at our cbs station in miami. he's following the storm system. david, as the storm tracks north, who has the most to worry about? >> well, there is a lot of real estate to cover, jim. let's start by looking at the satellite and radar combined this evening, and we have a big shield of snow this afternoon covering areas from detroit to cleveland, right through northern pennsylvania, now pushing into western portions of new york. south of there, all along the i- 95 corridor through new york and philly

that michael moore is here tonight? this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> my going is to get to an agreement with the president of the united states that addresses this problem. >> the fiscal cliff end game comes into play. tonight, john boehner meets the president at the white house. congressman barney frank is here with reaction. >>> republican bullies in the senate get their way. >> i didn't want to see a confirmation process that was very prolonged. >> jonathan alter and michael steele on the ugly politics that took down susan rice. >>> the economic policy institute destroys governor rick schneider's best right to work talk point. >> all you have to do is look to indiana. >> they've gotten thousands of jobs coming to indiana. >> indiana's had a strong experience. they did similar legislation. >> tonight, michigan's favorite son, michael moore, on schneider's portrayal and the way forward for workers in the heartland. >>> the 12-12-12 concert raised a ton of money for sandy relief. but house republicans are holding up federal dollars. i'll tell you why. >>> and a meteorolo

the 18th. >> antonini no , borden eye, moore, aye, commissioner chair wu that mission fails commissioners. i'm sorry -- continuance because it's a majority i apologize so that hogs passes three to one with commissioner antonini voting against.. >> commissioners that will place you on your last calendar items we need to here from the drench yes because it was continued at this later hour we can put it later on the calendar next week and we can actually make it time specific as well and make all of the d r's time specific, that will be helpful and i timely think that let's go ahead and make this d r time specific that doesn't need to be other d r's as well. and other items -- the calendar -- [indistinguishable; everybody is talking at the same time]. understood then this will be the first item on the recognize calendar next week. okay and commissioner you are on your last recognizingly schedule calendar item 8.747 d. for 1830 to lead the way request discretionary review and this has been heard a couple of times and the public hearing does remain open. >>> okay so d r requestor

! (laughter) >> indiana didn't take michigan's jobs, all right? michael moore ate them! (laughter) >> jon: now that both indiana and michigan have the exact same right to work laws, though, how are you going to differentiate yourselves? >> right to work? jon, come on, that is so 11 months ago. indiana's latest pro-business measure is the workplace safety act. any business that relocates here gets to dump whatever they want wherever they want for free. lakes, rivers, wetlands. they take all factories toxic slurry. >> jon: you call that workplace safety act. >> studies show poisoning the environments cuts workplace beaver bites down to zero. no more raccoon maulings or slipping on the o *d toad on a factory floor. dow chemical is very interesting. >> that's no match for michigan's latest pro-business measure. work force education. >> jon: yeah, i'm going to guess that's not really educating workers, is it? >> it's the opposite! if your business needs cheap workers to pull long hours, michigan will turn its schools into factories! no more recess, kids, now it's a five-minute smoke br

. steve moore is here with us. if th strike happens, some estimates say $1 billion per day hit to the economy. >> yeah, the's no question. if you -- you used the right word, cripple the economy. the ports in this country are the backbone of our trade, both export and imports and i've read estimates of $100 billion or more comes in and out. so it cook devastating, and reverberate throughout the economy. retailers, whesalers. food distributors, everybody would be affected by the strike if it goes forward. >> exactly what do the unions want and what is management willing to do? how far apart arehe two groups? >> it's inresting. they're not really -- normally in a wage dispute with the union,ettes it's about wages and benefits but in this case it's not. what the unions are objecting to, according to the media reports i've been seeing, is theybject to new kinds of work rules and new kinds of efficiencies that the port systems want to put in place to make the ports more productive, lower costs. that's happening -- you cover these markets every day. it's happening in every industry in americ

plan to strike this weekend. we reached out but haven't heard back yet. steve moore is here with us. if the strike happens, some estimates say $1 billion per day hit to the economy. >> yeah, there's no question. if you -- you used the right word, cripple the economy. the ports in this country are the backbone of our trade, both export and imports and i've read estimates of $100 billion or more comes in and out. so it cook devastating, and reverberate throughout the economy. retailers, wholesalers. food distributors, everybody would be affected by the strike if it goes forward. >> exactly what do the unions want and what is management willing to do? how far apart are the two groups? >> it's interesting. they're not really -- normally in a wage dispute with the union,ettes it's about wages and benefits but in this case it's not. what the unions are objecting to, according to the media reports i've been seeing, is they object to new kinds of work rules and new kinds of efficiencies that the port systems want to put in place to make the ports more productive, lower costs. that's happeni

looking for a man who fled the scene of a fatal collision. the 34-year-old, moore, sped off in a bmw after officers pulled him over at 90th and bancroff. he t-boned a car at interstate 580. a female passenger in the lincoln was killed and three others were injured. the police arrested moore but his passenger got away. >>> across oakland, three people were killed in two separate cases early today. two men were fatally shot near downtown. a woman was stabbed to death in an apartment on walnut street. two men were fatally shot. neighbors say they heard arguing at the apartment where the woman was killed. a man with cuts to his hands was detained by the police. meantime, the authorities identified the victims of the double homicide as darryl armstrong and 19-year-old keith davis. both shot several times. oakland police have not made any arrests in this case. oakland has seen 130 homicides this year. that is 20 more than last year. >>> it has been chowdy -- cloudy and cold all day long. the temperatures have not moved too much. all day, you can see, a lot of 40s and lower 50s out there. 4

&rs that way. it doesn't all have to be public money. >> let's bring stephen moore in. i think you're going to disagree with my notion that government can be all that helpful to our runner. that government can be helpful other than by getting out of the way. i think you're going to suggest lower taxes, lower spending, fewer regulations. for the sake of this argument and analogy, accept that taxes are going up. there are many soifr who is argue that there is not a role for government in this let the markets and private industry handle it. but they haven't, and we've got substandard roads and bridges and electricity and broadband infrastructure. all of this means we're less attractive to business. do you accept that the government has a role to play in the rebuilding of america's infrastructure? >> well, sure. and by the way, i love your optimism, ali, i hope you're exactly right about 2013 and 2014. we've been spending money on the programs. a lot of the school buildings, i mean that's been going on in a large magnitude in the united states. what i like and where we might find s

professor ken rowback, "wall street journal" editorial writer steve moore and chrystia free land. i asked ken how you convince lawmakers that infrastructure money is well spent and how do you ensure that the money is, in fact, well spent? >> i think you have to have firm regulatory oversight. it's not something you can just spend the money and walk away from. but there are the electricity grid, water, aging bridges. there's so many things hardening our cyber infrastructure against terrorist attacks and such. many, many things. elt doesn't have to be public money. there's no reason we have to be so statused about this that we can't have more private money. we have telephone companies, cable companies, we did the railroads that way. it doesn't all have to be public money. >> steven is nodding his head vigorously. you're going to disagree with the assertion that government can be helpful. a new analogy. that government can be helpful other than by getting out of the way. i think you'll suggest lower taxes, lower spending, fewer regulations. but let's for the sake of this argument and t

whom some people believe is god, it is mucked up. mucked up so to speak. tv writer frazier moore secular zealot massacre rating as a zealot for the associated press turning holiday war zone o'reilly is all for keeping christ in christmas. at the same time he proclaims that everyone, no matter their faith, should call a christmas tree a christmas tree and knock off their whining. no one intelligent person could possibly see a secular possibly see a secular display of interior ministry position of philosophy. never mind that webster's new world college dictionary defines christianity christians collectively the christian religion, unquote. mr. moore is offend od that i want a christmas tree to be called a christmas tree. he sees it as an attack on his value system. moore is one of the legions of media who have formed a secular clown posey. a bunch of people who have no blanking idea what this country was founded on. so i'm going to speak very slowly to you frazier, please take some notes and have that dictionary handy. christianity is a religion for those who believe jesus is is go

. he hold moore at gun point when he had him in his home. moore should be lucky to be alive. >> evidences going to try and run or something and i was going to have to shoot him or my step dad was going to have to shoot him. >> he now faces burglary charges. >>> democrats and republicans are far apart on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. doug luzader is live with more. >> they are drawing one line in the sand after another confident the republicans will give in at the approach of the new year. he hopes he makes a deal on this. but his point man on fiscal cliff negotiations took a much different tone if republicans don't negotiate on revenue band tax rates on upper earners the white house is ready to go right over the cliff. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >>> oo absolutely. >> the president had support on raising tax rates on upper income earners. republicans have support the putting more emphasis on government spending rather than just simply raising taxes. the republican leaders in congress meantime who also met with business leaders yesterday

filed for divorce from demi moore last week. the official may/december split could cost the "2 and a half men" star a pretty penny. moore wants as much money from kutcher as she got from ex bruce willis. that amount has never been disclosed, but it is thought to be considerable. >>> and another hollywood ending. new york housewife-turned-entrepreneur bethenny frankel has separated from her husband of two years, jason hoppy. the 42-year-old tweeted, "i am heartbroken, i am sad. we will work through this as a family." >> sad. i mean, all the divorce talk around the holidays. >> here's good news -- i think that justin bieber is getting back to selena. >> this is good. >> and a friend of mine said that maybe tom cruise and katie holmes are getting back together. i don't see -- >> interesting. >> we'll see how that plays out. i don't know. apparently it was in a tabloid. there you go. >> it's always true, right? >>> this comes from kusa in denver where a family's tradition is seeing a final year. an opulent light display was built for 50 years. what started as one strand of lights has gro

republicans may be softening their stance. nbc's brian moore has the very latest on this story. >> reporter: president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the tax and spending stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. meanwhile, one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that takes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a deal? >> yes. >> we don't have a lot of cards before year end. we have one house. that's it, the presidency and the senate. it's in the democrat's hands. >> since we agree with the democrats, 98% of the american people and 80% of the bush tax cuts, i would get that off the table now so they don't worry about it. >> democrats insist taxes are going up on the rich no matter what. >> if you don't increase tax rates 2%, you won't generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reductions. >> republicans want big spending cuts to programs like medicare and social security. >> we don't want to be back here in another year or ten years answering the same

moore, waived his right to a hearing. >>> today is the first day of the gun show in chantilly. protesters plan to be out in full force. the code pink, the social advocacy group, is prepared to protest outside. the group interrupted the nra news conference last week if you you remember this. they want stricter regulations when it comes to buying guns. >> the rules on gun shows are very loose. the feeling is, this is not a sane way to protect you and me and our kids. >> despite the protests, gun stores have seen a huge increase in sales because many fear stricter regulations in light of the newtown school shooting. >> we're just getting started on news4 today. it's happened again. police begin a second search for the person who pushed someone off a new york city subway platform. >>> the 12 and 13-year-olds facing charges in a brazen crime in northern virginia. >>> more winter weather rolling in for the weekend. the >>> all right. grab the skis, the snowboard, it's time to hit the slopes again. the winter storm and cold temperatures helping ski resorts to open this weekend. white

congresswoman gwen moore, democrat from wisconsin. she was a staunch supporter of rice amid the republican criticism. and joan walsh, editor at large of salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. >> congresswoman, what is your reaction to ambassador rice's announcement? >> i can tell you, i'm saddened. i'm enraged. this was always a fabricated, trumped up allegation. this, you know, not very briegt, there's not enough time on this program to walk through her tremendous accomplishments over the last 20 years in public service. i think that the republicans see an opportunity to have senator kerry appointed as secretary of state. and be able to rup a special election off cycle to be able to -- to win john kerry's seet in massachusetts. as you might remember, president obama sort of blew romney away in massachusetts. 60% to about 39%. and it was a little bit closer with the elizabeth, warren brown race. 63% to maybe about 43%. so all throughout these trumped up charges of her not being ver

name of the driver who struck and killed a woman as he was fleeing from officers. st.dwan moore is now behind bars. the highway patrol tried to pull him over on 90th avenue and mcarthur boulevard at 11:30 last night. moore took off and broadsided a lincoln town car killing a passenger in the lincoln. three other people in the car were seriously injured. after the crash, moore and a passenger ran off. officers caught moore the passenger got away. >>> a bay area lawmakers introduced new legislation today to crack down on repeat drunk drivers. by putting a locking device inside their car. ktvu's patti lee caught up with some that are saying the technology is missing the mark. >> reporter: we sat in on a mandatory treatment session for men arrested while driving under the influence. some are repeat offenders. >> today i introduce senate bill 55. >> reporter: state senator jerry hill introduced a bill that would require drivers convicted of a second dui offense to install an ignition interlock device or iid on their car for one year. the iid would prevent the car from starting. if there

fleeing from officers. st.dwan moore is now behind bars. the highway patrol tried to pull him over on 90th avenue and mcarthur boulevard at 11:30 last night. moore took off and broadsided a lincoln town car killing a passenger in the lincoln. three other people in the car were seriously injured. after the crash, moore and a passenger ran off. officers caught moore the passenger got away. >>> a bay area lawmakers introduced new legislation today to crack down on repeat drunk drivers. by putting a locking device inside their car. ktvu's patti lee caught up with some that are saying the technology is missing the mark. >> reporter: we sat in on a mandatory treatment session for men arrested while driving under the influence. some are repeat offenders. >> today i introduce senate bill 55. >> reporter: state senator jerry hill introduced a bill that would require drivers convicted of a second dui offense to install an ignition interlock device or iid on their car for one year. the iid would prevent the car from starting. if there's alcohol on the drive's breath. >> we tried increasing fines

murder trial. new protections ordered for the jury. and new testimony about how dee dee moore swindled the lottery winner before murdering him. linsey davis has the details. >> reporter: it's like something out of "csi," george. dee dee moore try wrote a letter she killed. the man who supposedly wrote this letter was not just dead. he was also illiterate. for the first time, when the jury walks into trial for the dee dee moore murder trial, they'll have an escort. this after they said that one of the witnesses and several of the friends and family of the murder victim were staring at them and made them feel uncomfortable when outside the courtroom. >> does it affect your ability to be fair and impartial in this case? >> no. i just want to feel safe. >> reporter: on monday, they looked at rambling two-page letter, that police detective smith said that moore forged in an effort to convince his mother he was still alive. >> she had a brand-new laptop set up, and a printer. she had a rubber type glove on. and a scarf thing over her head. >> what did that conceal? >> that was suppo

right thing. joining me now is attorney jonathan moore who represents four to five men in their suit against the city of new york. thank you for coming on the show tonight, jonathan. >> thank you, reverend al. >> this was obviously a joyous day for the central park five. but your case has been going on for years. what are you asking for? and why is it still going on a decade later? >> well, the case is about really two things. it's about compensation for the fact that these young kids, 14, 15 at the time, spent the best part of their youth locked up in prisons in the state of new york for something that they didn't do. but the case is also about accountability. and about holding these detectives and the district attorneys involved accountable for their misconduct. they had hard evidence that was not used, am i right? >> they had any reasonable detective or district attorney looking at this evidence at the time. especially when the evidence came back with no dna connection between these kid and the unfortunate victim in the park that night. they should have been looking at evidence fo

donica moore she's a woman's health expert an advocate physician educator and a media commentator on cross talk rules in effect folks that means you can jump in anytime you want me i probably should lose a few pounds because of the food i eat so should that food that i eat be taxed to teach me to eat better and to be have better health. well studies show if we increase costs or put about a twenty percent tax on certain foods that you will see a reduction in consumption i can't imagine someone trying to float a twenty percent tax on anything right now i see it more than a syntax or punitive i see it more as if a company if their production results in waste or pollution then that company is responsible for those externalities i see it very much like that it's pogo v and if you make a person who says but that decision imposes a cost on others then yeah we should tax that that's the case with obesity it's based on our personal choices our lifestyle the costs associated with that are not wholly owned by that person we as a society are picking up the price picking up the bill on that escal

barbados. >>> one year after separating ashton kutcher filed for divorce from demi moore. it could cost the "two and a half men" star a pretty penny. moore was as much from kutcher as she got from her ex, bruce willis. that amount was never disclosed but that's supposed to be pretty considerable. >>> new york housewives turned entrepreneur bethany frankel has separated from her husband. the 42-year-old treated i am heart broken. i am sad. we will work through this as a family. >>> now for another look at the weather, here's nst meteorologist dylan dreyer. >> nothing was private to begin with. it makes sense to make your announcements on twitter. keep it all out there for the public, right? >> absolutely. >> we are looking at some bitter cold air. look at the dakotas. we're starting off today with temperatures below zero and tonight into christmas morning north dakota could see wind chills at 25 to 35 degrees below zero. that's where the cold air is located. the east coast though is starting off the day in the 30s. and we'll top out around 40 or so in boston and new york city. washi

after separating, ashton kutcher filed for divorce from demi moore last week. the official may/december split could cost the "2 and a half men" star a pretty penny. moore wants as much money from kutcher as she got from ex bruce willis. that amount has never been disclosed, but it is thought to be considerable. >>> and another hollywood ending. new york housewife-turned-entrepreneur bethenny frankel has separated from her husband of two years, jason hoppy. the 42-year-old tweeted, "i am heartbroken, i am sad. we will work through this as a family." >>> and now for another look for the weather, here's dylan dreyer. nothing is private anymore. i thought back to her reality show, it wasn't private anyway. >> nothing is private anyway so it makes sense to make your announcement on twitter. >> absolutely. >> keep it all out there for the public, right? we are looking at bitter cold air. look at the dakotas. temperatures below zero. tonight into christmas morning north dakota could see wind chills at 25 to 35 degrees below zero. that's where the cold air is located. the east coast though is s

snow chased him to san francisco and knew dr. king and his father and had a class in moore house of seven students. dr. brown and members of the class and knew them before and before then and he brings a lean yaj of struggle to the table every time he speaks with tremendous morale authority and stroke couldn't stop him for fight wg great power. [applause] i want to thank mayor ed lee for convening the family. for all the times we think of leading from the front. often you lead from the center. you have the power to convene the family, to look at a family crisis and think it through, and it figure

and knew dr. king and his father and had a class in moore house of seven students. dr. brown and members of the class and knew them before and before then and he brings a lean yaj of struggle to the table every time he speaks with tremendous morale authority and stroke couldn't stop him for fight wg great power. [applause] i want to thank mayor ed lee for convening the family. for all the times we think of leading from the front. often you lead from the center. you have the power to convene the family, to look at a family crisis and think it through, and it figure it out, and if we can get out of our own's self way we might find solutions to a problem that is multi-faceted. i want to thank pastor bryant here who is the spokesman in the state and reverend brown and used his zeal and intelligence, his will to fight. he is a preacher, pastor, teacher, musician and a san francisco giant fanatic. [applause] and to all of you here today this issue of violence is a complex and challenging one. no one need to be self rightious about it because there is no instant answer to the things tha

captured the driver nearby 34-year-old moore facing two charges, evading police and vehicular manslaughter. >> did not appear to be very much under the influence. he was able to exit his vehicle and flee the scene. so that would show that he is coherent. >> reporter: the surveillance footage shows the passengers trying to get away from police. they are looking for him. in oakland, i'm da lin cbs 5. >>> prosecutors have filed murder charges against two people they say were involved in a high-speed police chase that ended up killing an 11- year-old daly city boy. the l.a. county district attorney says the suspects a man and woman in their early 20s threw a loaded gun out of their car before slamming into a minivan in pasadena on christmas night. 11-year-old kendrick ing was killed along with his 25-year- old cousin. the family was down in l.a. for christmas and had just left an ice rink. >>> as 2012 closes oakland's murder rate hit 130. three people were killed just last night. a 21-year-old and a 19-year-old were shot to death. and in a separate attack, a man was stabbed. >>> a

dr. king and his father and had a class in moore house of seven students. dr. brown and members of the class and knew them before and before then and he brings a lean yaj of struggle to the table every time he speaks with tremendous morale authority and stroke couldn't stop him for fight wg great power. [applause]

. anti-capitalist filmmaker michael moore member of the 1% believes in taking from the rich and giving to the poor. you know what else he believes? lining his pocket with the taxpayer dollars. that story is ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back. i'm often asked if liberals really believe the stuff they say they believe. how could they? case and point, michael moore, the world's worst person and who spent most of his life pointing fingers at the makers and holding the takers on a pedestal and laughing all the way to the bank. but it wasn't funny when someone confronted him for being 1%. >> aren't you part of the 1 in fact >> i do very well. >> how are you helping these people? >> how are you hemming people with $50 million. >> i don't have $50 million. >> that's the rumors, that you have $50 million. >> you're just punk media. you lie. you lie. >> mr. i love taxes and want to pay my fair share had his naned the taxpayer cookie jar. guess how much he took for the last movie? staff effect, please. $841,000. almost $1 million. >> kimberly: he doesn't mind making money. he is a

. warm man. at his fun ral saturday, lovely and dignified funeral. they had quotes from thomas moore, quotes that i guess i assume he very much liked. one was relevant to face calf cliff discussion. what you cannot turn to good you must at least make as littled be as you can. which is thomas moore, a good, bob bork sentment for guiding yourself in washington. at least make the bad as little bad as you can. the other quote from thomas moore, you must not abandon a ship in the storm because you cannot control the winds. it love. that must not abandon the snip the storm because yaw cannot control the winds. dying a week before christmas. pay respects to him here. naughty, how about baby boomers. the baby boomer generation. we are the greatest generation to save us from the naziism and in a way to won the cold war as well. ronald reagan, not a baby-boomer. we have become close to bankrupting the country and not a good job of leadership and i hope the kid's generation is more like their grandparents. than like us. for me, happy to dump on the fellow baby boomers. >> going to be around a l

, george. five out of nine days of this trial dee dee moore has broken down in court. where her emotions ran so high, she had to be reprimanded by the judge. and thursday, of course, no different. dee dee moore's latest emotional outburst was so severe, the judge temporarily stopped the trial so she could pull herself together. >> ms. moore, i'm going to tell you once again, you need to compose yourself. >> reporter: the breakdown came after the girlfriend of abraham shakespeare, the man moore is accused of murdering, took the stand. >> he ran out of the bank. and he wasn't coming back. she wanted me to be so mad with him. >> reporter: victoria butler described moore as divisive and manipulative. and went on to say that shakespeare, who won $30 million in the florida lottery in 2006, had given away most of his winnings for people who simply asked for it. prosecutors say moore stole what he had left and then killed him. >> you want another moment to talk to your lawyer? >> yes. >> then, take that moment. >> reporter: moore's reaction to butler's testimony was so severe, at one point, she

this simply makes no sense. stephen moore, senior writer for "the wall street journal." how are you doing, steve? good morning. >> hi, bill. bill: they're saying 43,000 jobs because of this. what, a latex glove gets taxed? i thought it was just like on mri machines and big items like that? >> actually, no. thank you for doing this segment because a lot of americans don't realize when the president calls for all the new taxes in the fiscal cliff negotiation, mr. president we already have a big tax increase that will hit on january 2nd. that of course is the obamacare taxes. you mentioned one of them, the tax on medical devices and medical equipment, bill, which i agree with, congressman price. that will reduce innovation and will reduce the kind of invention and new products we need to keep people healthier. in addition to that, bill, don't forget there is something called 3.8% investment tax surcharge in the obamacare bill that starts in january. one of the things that the president says is a little misleading i will only raise tax rates back where they were in the clinton era. you